12.17.2007

Stolen From A Super Duper Top Secret Forums Board

Not really

I recognize myself in a bit of this. Don't deny that you see the letters in your name spelled out too, lol. An interesting excerpt, from the perspective of The Nice Guy:

Part I:
In the dating game WOMEN have the power to chose what mate they want. They know what kind of man they are getting with but they choose him anyway because he was "cute, fun, exciting and/or dangerous". Men do not have that option.

THEY CHOOSE THE PLAYERS/JERKS/THUG MEN.

You always hear females bitching about wanting a "real" man but they turn their backs on them. It's only after the females throw his "respect and caring" for them in his face that drives men to distraction, that men become uncaring, NOT because they are, but because after trying their best and failing to live up to the UNREALISTIC expectations of the woman they truly care about, men realize that their feelings never matter, only HER agenda. What SHE WANTS. It's only about HER.

Now if the guy is overly good-looking with a bank account to match, has a 10' penis and can sex like a Greek God, has an IQ of 150 with a "bad boy" edge women will always treat them like kings. But for average "real" guys it's much different.

A man who dares to complain about this system is written off as a bitter misogynist, having a bad attitude and is rejected. That's another repetition of the cycle because he opens up his true feelings, as he is SUPPOSED to do, and is punished for it if isn't the type of TRUTH women want to hear.

Every time a Nice/good guy talks about why women don't want him AFTER HE DOES EVERYTHING THEY ASK AND CLAIM TO WANT. Females will ALWAYS blame the man and NOT themselves. Instead they will tell him he is rejected not because he's a Nice/good man but because of some trivial flaw.

Every nice/good guy hears women talk about how wonderful they are, and how they would make some woman very happy, The nice/good guy is inclined to believe these words,yet those same females don't go out of their way to date them or even fix them up. Instead women are eager to fix a shallow jerk/player up with other women. Meanwhile, the man who is what women CLAIM to want is ignored. The conclusion that women are lying to him is almost impossible to refute.

Part II: The Change
If he stops caring, stops letting his desires control his emotions, stops going out of his way for women, and stops giving them the benefit of the doubt, they will forever try to change him back into the man they ignored in the first place. If females wanted nice/good men, they would select nice/good men in the first place. It is obvious that females are less interested in seeking out a nice/good guy to begin with, and are more interested in the DRAMA created by the challenge of turning a jerk/player back into the nice/good guy she NEVER wanted. Good/Nice guys are told not to change a thing despite their miserable results, to keep up hope that things will turn around, and one day they will meet that mythical right woman [HA!], who makes all the pain worthwhile. So they sit back and watch as all their jerk/players friends seem to pull women and sex off a conveyor belt.

"You'll find her"...."Hang in there"....."Just be yourelf" Nice/good guys are told over and over and over again.The years roll by and yet they are still alone or if best stuck as "Just friends" and Cuddle Bitches of females.

The typical canned response given to good guys by women?

"He will get the women in the end [when she's in her late 30's] but what guy wants a women after a bunch of bad boys/players and thugs went through her and now she's old, her beauty is fading and she prob has kids? So she NOW runs to the Nice/good guy? Sorry, but noone wants to be an after-thought of damaged goods. If it takes her THAT LONG to figure out she wanted a nice/good guy, she prob never did and is only NOW going after him because her Bio-clock is ticking and she knows the player/thugs don't want to have anything to do with her. She runs to him NOT by choice but by necessity.

Part III: The Last Resort
Eventually, the Nice Guy/Good guy learns not to open up, and to be jaded, cynical, and distant. He's finally says "FUCK THIS!"

And thanks to the power of the internet, he goes and finds some REAL ANSWERS. He soon finds info like "The Ladder Theory" and "The Player's Guide at fastseduction.com". Becoming a player/jerk wasn't his the first idea, it was his LAST RESORT. Sadly, being a decent normal guy ISN'T enough anymore. Now, It seems females RESPOND MORE to his new persona. He slowy becomes the jerk, on his way to being a player.

The players/jerks are just regular guys who have been walked on a bit too much. One thing that is clear is that many of them are not thrilled with what they have to do in order to get a girlfriend and laid, and who can blame them? When the same man who is rejected as a nice/good guy is treated like royalty when he becomes a thug/jerk or player, how can women expect any man to put up with that? They might as well just drop the charade and tell men that this is what they want.

This is one of reasons why men become jerks/players: they get tired of denying their sexuality, tired of worrying about whether or not women will approve of them, they stop trying to hide their desires, they get sick of hearing "You're a great guy but.."they are tired of hearing women give them the SAME bullshit advice that contradicts their OWN actions towards men. Soon they stop caring about how anyone reacts to them, start caring only about whether they get laid or not, and the females see this as a display of manhood , something worthy of a sexual reward.

Part IV: The Now
Females go with what feels good NOW, even when they talk about and claim to wanting long-term happiness. They will violate their own selection principles by overreacting to something the jerk/player says, something they think sets him apart from other men, but which in reality was something that he knew would make females feel good and more likely to want to fuck him.

The reality is women, just like men follow their primal instincts FIRST. Women just call it "Following your heart" because it sounds better than "Follow your pussy". And many of them lack the self-control to NOT date these guys in much the same way that they seem to lack the self-control necessary to not eat that pint of chocolate ice cream even though they know they're going to be bltching about their weight later. And since they're women, they can just go and say it was the man's fault all along, right?.

In dating, the same thing happens, with a man constantly finding himself at a fork in the road where acting like a good guy will doom the relationship, while acting like a jerk/player will get him immediate sex and the women. And until that reward system changes, until females stop trusting everything they HEAR that they want to believe, until they start getting turned on by honesty and decency the way they get turned on by height, money, and physical strength or status, it will not change.

And it's very safe to say that this change will NOT come in your lifetime.

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Um... should we do something about this? Ladies? A part of me only wants to disagree because it's my duty as a female to stick up for the vagina brigade. But... too much of this rings true. So, what do we do about it?